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Bar/tavern/club types, and the names that go along with them

  Cyburbia - urban planning community -

Several years ago, I posted a thread about whether you could determine the atmosphere of a bar solely from its name.

At the time, I was living in blue-collar, old-school Cleveland. Now, I’m here in hipper-than-thou Austin, and bar names just seem … well, much different than what I experienced back in Cleveland. I thought I’d start a thread about the types of bars that are out there, and typical names that seemt o go along with the genre.

For example, old fashioned neighborhood taverns usually have a name in the form of [possessive owner's/former owner's name] [some other name] [Bar/Grill/Tavern/Inn/Hotel/House/Tap/something else]. For example:

Joe’s Lakeside Inn
Eddie’s Oak Hill Tavern
Dave’s Valley Hotel
Dino’s Lady Luck Lounge
Vinnie’s Old Town Grill
Frank’s Wayside Tavern
Chuck’s Manor House Tap
Ed’s Tudor Lounge
Bill and Frank’s Corner Bar

Italian restaurants in blue-collar cities also have a similar naming scheme; in Buffalo there’s Salvatore’s Italian Gardens, Frank’s Sunny Italy, Bob and John’s La Hacienda, Dino’s Bocce Club, the famous Frank and Theresa’s Anchor Bar, and many others.

What about old-school gay bars? You know, the kind of place where you won’t see women who visit just to dance and avoid being picked up by straight guys.

The Manhole
The Back Door
The Ramrod
The Tool Shed
The Mineshaft
The Glory Hole
Members Only
The Manhandler
The Jackhammer
The Male Slot
Bottoms Up
The Docking Station
The Junk Yard
The White Swallow
The San Francisco Deep Mining and Drilling Company

In Austin, there’s no shortage of minimalist hipper-than-hip bars that seem to play plenty ambient music. They usually have names like …

flow
oxygen
liquid
wave
fresh
clear
aqua
light
breeze

There’s 1970s fake Irish and fern-ish singles bars …

P.J. O’Shenanigan’s Good Time Drink Factory
P.G. McGuillicudy’s Foodrinkery
P.D. O’Ryan’s Bar, Tavern and Grill
P.W. O’Connor’s Food and Drink Emporium

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Hanksville, UT

  Cyburbia - urban planning community -

Hanksville’s a very small, very isolated town. It’s in a strategic location near several national parks as well as Lake Powell, however, so it gets a fair amount of tourist traffic. The location’s pretty striking, too.





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Mall Expansion, Green Line, & Bitching

  Transit Sleuth

As with all things, people will complain and a few will love it.  There is always something to complain about.  I admit, even I have complained about the Bus Mall design that is getting its final touches put on in downtown Portland.  I have to however, withdraw my original skepticism.  I think it is actually going to work much better than I originally anticipated.  I also admit, yeah, I’m often a bit more skeptical than I ought to be.

Problems

There are problems that will occur and I know the number one complaint already.  By my estimation and what I’ve heard so far is, “the bus doesn’t stop enough downtown”.  I’ve looked, and yeah, the stops are farther and fewer, for MAX and bus, but there is a reason.  TriMet is trying to fix the other huge and common complaint, “It takes 22 friggin’ minutes to get across downtown!”, and turn it into a more reasonable 15 minutes or so.  With the stops as they are, the future Milwaukee line and all the mall buses will finally be able to get through town in a much more reasonable time than the common complaint of 20+ minutes.

The Good Stuff

I’ve noticed, with the buses back in the more centrally located mall most people will see a few minutes knocked off of their walk to the office.  In addition to that many will see another few minutes knocked off of their actual bus commute, depending on how deep into downtown they have to come.

The MAX will also add a highly visible, more “out of town” friendly way to haul business cohorts and such around town.  The question is, will it stay that way.  The Yellow Line is commonly known as one of the less friendly MAX Trains.  Hopefully TriMet & Portland PD can keep it cleaned up and attractive along the new mall.  If so, the potential ridership of Green and Yellow is massive.

Problems & Good Green

I’ve recently rode out along the Green Line to Clackamas Town Center.  It raised a few questions.

  1. Why is the transit center located so far from the Mall?  Is it for the easy Interstate access?  I thought the point was to connect “town centers” with high throughput lines like the MAX.  This does the entirely opposite thing and encourages sprawl, so why?
  2. What is the intended TOD along the Green Line?  So far it appears there is an extreme minimum space to use for TOD, especially with 82nd already lined with business and life, of course, auto based business and such.
  3. If the ridership is 20-30k per day, where is this expected to come from?
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Greetings All!

  Cyburbia - urban planning community -

Hi!
I am Nancy Odendaal, urban planner, academic and currently coordinator of the Association of African Planning Schools (www.africanplanningschools.org.za). I am based at the African Centre for Cities, Cape Town (www.acc.uct.ac.za).

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San Francisco’s Japan Center Struggles to Shake Urban Renewal History

  Planetizen - Urban Planning, Design and Development Network

The ongoing effort to improve Japantown shows just how difficult it can be to shed the past.

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Prince Charles Takes Architects to Task

  Planetizen - Urban Planning, Design and Development Network

In a now infamous speech to the Royal Institute of British Architects, the Prince accused architects of having “a surfeit of abstracted ideology over the practical realities linked to people’s lives and the grain of their culture and identity.”

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Pavement-to-Parks Plaza Opens Today in SF

  Planetizen - Urban Planning, Design and Development Network

San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom will officially open the new pedestrian transit plaza on 17th St., built on a swath of land in the Castro district that until recently allowed cars.

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Going for my MArch after my MRP smart or stupid?

  Cyburbia - urban planning community -

I am about to enter my first semester of Albanys Masters in Regional Planning Program. After I graduate I wanted to go to the City College of New York to get a Masters in Architecture because it has always been an interest to me, and I feel with my undergrad in environmental planning, a masters in regional planning and a masters in architecture I will be able to do what I really want and that is to design buildings/communities based around the concept of sustainable and more efficient living. Is getting my masters in Regional Planning (which is 2 years) and than a MArch (which is 3 years) completely ridiculous and a waste? I feel with the way the economy is now and the way people have been talking about more and more planners competing and loosing their jobs, not only will this be interesting for me, but will also make me more competitive… Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

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National Trust for Historic Preservation auction

  Cyburbia - urban planning community -

Anyone else looked over the goodies available? There are some awesome getaway packages - golf, wineries/breweries, historic tours, etc. I have a watch on a couple that are close enough to drive to, but the listings are nation-wide.

Take a look - there’s probably something close to you! And it’s all for a good cause! Well, if you believe in the National Trust’s mission, it’s a good cause!

http://www.cmarket.com/auction/Aucti…rvationauction

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Redefining "Comfort" in the Architecture of the Future

  Planetizen - Urban Planning, Design and Development Network

Buildings are designed to ensure fully mechanized comfort. Architect Terri Meyer Boake argues that designers need to think in terms of a spectrum of comfort in designing the reduced-impact buildings of the future.

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